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Trim brakes fail to stop blackouts on Kings Dominion's Intimidator 305

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Riders are still reporting experiencing "blackouts" on Kings Dominion's Intimidator 305 rollercoaster, despite the addition of trim brakes to slow down the ride.

A number of Kings Dominion guests complained of the blackout sensation following Intimidator 305's opening on April 3, leading to the installation of the brakes on the coaster's 300-feet, 92mph first drop. However, many riders have since claimed that the extreme forces exerted on them during the ride's first turn are still enough to cause blackouts.

Theme Park Tourist reader Jenny commented following her trip to the park on June 21, saying: "I was expecting a slight pause at the top, but we just went straight down. I blacked out for a couple seconds. But it was fun."

This reflects comments from those who rode prior to the installation of the trim brakes, such as this one from an anonymous visitor: "I rode it twice, sitting front row and middle. The first time i rode it, no problems, great rush, wanted to do it again! The second time towards the end of the day, sat in the middle, went down the drop, went on that turn, things started going purple and black!! It only lasted roughly 5 seconds, but long enough to freak me out!!! If they can make some adjustment to that one turn, it would attract me to get on again."

The addition of the brakes has proven controversial among coaster enthusiasts, and calls into question Kings Dominion's original claim that the ride is "the fastest gravity-driven rollercoaster in North America". Intimidator 305 had initially drawn rave reviews, with favorable comparisons being drawn to Cedar Point's Millenium Force, the only other Intamin Giga Coaster in the US.

Forum members on Kings Dominion fansite KDFansite.com have led the complaints about the artificial slowing of the ride. In a post on June 9, "keopera91" said: "The brakes on the first drop somewhat killed the ride for me. It goes too slow over the second hill now and the drop doesn't seem as intense unless your sitting in the back...it's still a good ride though."

Another TPT commenter bemoaned the changes, having enjoyed Intimidator 305 despite the extreme forces: "I was there on opening weekend and rode it twice. Although I did experience a slight grey out period, I thought the ride was amazing and I am saddened to see that so many people have freaked out about it enough for them to slow down one of the best coasters in the states! It definitely had something on Millenium Force, but not so sure now."

Not all fans are unhappy with the current configuration of the ride. KDFansite member "cygnusx1" offers a balanced view, summarising: "If KD decided to leave I305 this way (assuming that they run both trains on Saturdays to improve capacity), then that would be fine with me. I hope they will continue to diligently tweak the ride so that it performs with an optimal balance between speed/airtime, safety, and maintainability."

The addition of brakes after a rollercoaster opens is a common occurence, as parks experiment with different configurations to provide an optimal ride experience and to manage stresses placed on the ride's structure. It is possible that Kings Dominion may make further adjustments to Intimidator 305 as it continues to monitor rider feedback.

The high speed and intense twists and turns of Intimidator 305 are designed to mimic the experience of NASCAR driving, with the coaster's name being a tribute to 7-time NASCAR champion Dale Earnhardt. It was the second NASCAR-themed coaster to open at a Cedar Fair park in 2010, with Carowinds opening its B&M-designed sister coaster, Intimidator, in March.

Have you experienced Intimidator 305 before or after the addition of trim brakes? Do you think the changes are for the better, or for the worse? Let us know through the comments section below.

There are 69 comments.

I think it's important to note that it was in the nineties and humid, and dehydration could contribute to the headrush. I also went on 6/21, and experienced a momentary blackout at the bottom, also one of the end changes in direction wrenched my neck when my head slid to the left and it's still sore. I wonder if it was faster that wouldn't have happened? But then maybe I really would have been unconscious from the initial drop! Still love the Dominator the most at KD, it doesn't jerk you around and beat you up-- fun without the pain!

Regardless of the heat, it's pretty amazing that so many people are still experiencing blackouts on I305. I suspect we'll see some more adjustments before long. Thanks for sharing your experiences.

I took a ride before the trim brakes were added and I am now very disappointed with the ride. Not in whole, but compared to what it was and what it is now. Now it's just another ride. It WAS the best. The 1st time I rode it I did have a brief grey out. This is what "intimidated" me about riding it again. My next trip to KD was 2 months later. With the trim brakes added, the 1st drop ain't S%#T now! The former high g turn after the tall now weak drop, is now just a long turn. Airtime humps are now a piece of cake. I'm not at all intimidated about getting on the ride anymore. Sure, it might look intimidating, but the bark is a whole lot bigger than the bite, BY FAR! I pray for the trim brakes to be removed from the 1st drop, it's the right thing to do for the public and Dale Sr. And when they do remove the brakes, if you don't like it, don't ride it wimp! And if you don't like it, just keep in mind that it is YOU that can't handle perfection of I305. I recomend the Scooby Doo for you, or purhaps the bumper cars, it'll be right up your alley.

I COMPLETELY AGREE

I couldn't agree more!!

i have ridden the Intimidator like 4x in one day, and after that ride i rode the Italian job and i was still lightheaded from Intimidator and blacked out on it. But the 4x I rode Intomidator i blacked out. I didnt freak out because i was use to it. That is my FAVE ride. Yes i hate how they slowed it down, but i want everyone to be safe. We dont want another incident like 6 Flags.

i have ridden the Intimidator like 4x in one day, and after that ride i rode the Italian job and i was still lightheaded from Intimidator and blacked out on it. But the 4x I rode Intomidator i blacked out. I didnt freak out because i was use to it. That is my FAVE ride. Yes i hate how they slowed it down, but i want everyone to be safe. We dont want another incident like 6 Flags.

i have ridden the Intimidator like 4x in one day, and after that ride i rode the Italian job and i was still lightheaded from Intimidator and blacked out on it. But the 4x I rode Intomidator i blacked out. I didnt freak out because i was use to it. That is my FAVE ride. Yes i hate how they slowed it down, but i want everyone to be safe. We dont want another incident like 6 Flags.

i have ridden the Intimidator like 4x in one day, and after that ride i rode the Italian job and i was still lightheaded from Intimidator and blacked out on it. But the 4x I rode Intomidator i blacked out. I didnt freak out because i was use to it. That is my FAVE ride. Yes i hate how they slowed it down, but i want everyone to be safe. We dont want another incident like 6 Flags.

i have ridden the Intimidator like 4x in one day, and after that ride i rode the Italian job and i was still lightheaded from Intimidator and blacked out on it. But the 4x I rode Intomidator i blacked out. I didnt freak out because i was use to it. That is my FAVE ride. Yes i hate how they slowed it down, but i want everyone to be safe. We dont want another incident like 6 Flags.

i have ridden the Intimidator like 4x in one day, and after that ride i rode the Italian job and i was still lightheaded from Intimidator and blacked out on it. But the 4x I rode Intomidator i blacked out. I didnt freak out because i was use to it. That is my FAVE ride. Yes i hate how they slowed it down, but i want everyone to be safe. We dont want another incident like 6 Flags.

i have ridden the Intimidator like 4x in one day, and after that ride i rode the Italian job and i was still lightheaded from Intimidator and blacked out on it. But the 4x I rode Intomidator i blacked out. I didnt freak out because i was use to it. That is my FAVE ride. Yes i hate how they slowed it down, but i want everyone to be safe. We dont want another incident like 6 Flags.

I rode the coaster the week it opened in April prior to any modifications. Since I have ridden over 400+ coasters around the world, I was prepared for almost anything.

However, I grey-ed out each and every time from the bottom of the first drop up thru the second hill. The coaster is that intense.

For the average rider, I am sure this sensation is too much hence the lack of ridership. But the park would not spend the money to build an amazing ride and then have no one want to ride it.

I support their decision to modify it and appeal to the largest demographic of guests.

Interesting to hear that even hardened coaster riders are experiencing this! As you say, it's no surprise that the park is looking to update the ride to try and make it less extreme - although it's still up for debate whether they have got the balance right yet.

I rode this ride today ( 7/1/10) after the trim brakes have been installed and I felt tht it was a great coaster. I rode it with my friend who did not experience any blackouts. I however did. Right after the first drop my brain went a bit foggy and I saw purple and black blobs in my vision. I did snap out of it once the ride smoothed out for the first turn. It was a bit freaky, like my brain had shut off. For those who are complaining about slowing it down nd aren't experiencing blackouts this ride is meant to be fun for everyone who wants and has all the qualifications to ride it.
Suck it up. It has to be safe. Period.

oh! I would also like to mention that I am a petite female teenager and its possible it had more effect on me bacause of my size? Also I would like to add that The weather was wonderful and I was fully hydrated.

Thanks for letting us know. From your comments and others, it sounds like the blackouts are still pretty common even with the trim brakes in place. I think we can expect further changes in the coming months as Kings Dominion won't want negative word-of-mouth getting around about I305 and putting guests off riding it.

I absolutely love rollercoasters and will ride anything. I've ridden all the other coasters and KD and all the other parks I've gone to. I was lerie of this ride because I had heard of the blackouts, but figured that I'm 22 and in great health so I didn't really need to worry. At the bottom of the first hill I blacked out and then remained light-headed for the remainder of the ride. I definitely wouldn't recommend this ride to people unless something was done to mitigate the blackouts.

The intimidator 305 was a horrible coaster. I love roller coasters and have never been sick or blacked out on a coaster until i road the intimidator. I blacked out on the first turn after the big drop. After I came too, the coaster was going so fast it sucked my contacts out of my eyes. It ruined my day KD. I couldn't see and I felt oozy from passing out for almost the rest of the day. It is ridiculous to build a ride to that will cause someone to pass out. I suggust people to keep their eyes closed if they wear contacts and not to ride if you don't want to pass out!! I've read some comments from others that they like blacking out. I can't comprehend why someone would like to pass out. Not me!!

Strong words Amy - thanks. I wonder if anyone from Kings Dominion is reading this comment thread? I've got to believe they are planning further changes given some of the feedback on here.

I rode the Intimidator and LOVED it. No blackout, no gray out, no orbs, nothing. If they continue to slow it down, it may as well only be half as tall. The speed is the main attraction to this ride. The signs clearly say that if you're not in the right state of mind or being, to not ride. Sorry that some people didn't enjoy it, but not every ride is meant to be enjoyed by every patron to the park. If you don't like the feeling, or can't handle it, stick to the Dominator (another sick coaster), or the parks 7 other coasters. I don't think its that the majority of people are experiencing the blackouts, I think its the few that experience them are just the loudest about it!

I have thought for years that Millennium Force is the greatest coaster ever built. When I heard about Intimidator 305, I was really excited to finally get to ride a coaster with a similar experience. Now that it has been slowed down so dramatically, I am not even interested in going to King's Dominion. I have no desire to go ride a coaster as tall as Millennium Force but only as fast as Goliath. It would be a huge buzz kill. Right now, the trim brakes may help getting weaker guest on the ride, but in the long run, they're a poor choice. People will learn to not ride it if they can't handle it, and everyone else will get to enjoy it they way it was meant to be.

I rode this roller coaster last Friday July 2nd. There were no lines which was great, got to the park early, just around 10:30am. The drop feels really slow. Once you get to the top and start to go down, about half-way through you can feel the brakes slowing down the cart. It actually felt like we slowed down so much that the carts behind us were going to flip over our heads (we were in the front), kind of like if you used only the front brake on a motorcycle. I was looking for a big fast exhilirating drop. I was a bit disappointed to not get the stomach in your throat feeling that you look for from a big drop. Hands down the Volcano is still the best at KD. I might put Outer Limits up there too, because towards the end you can't see where you are going through the corkscrews and you get that feeling. All the hype for the 305 drop and its not bad at all. The only cool thing about the 305 is the quick turns, supposedly resembling a NASCAR track, though I don't think you turn left and right that quick in an oval.

Thanks everyone for the comments on this. It looks like there are some really mixed views and it is obviously something people feel really strongly about. We'll look to expand this into a full feature on the changes to Intimidator 305, and to try and get some official word from Kings Dominion on the issue and their future plans for the ride.

I'd love to know what KD plan to do about this ride.
My partner & I flew to Virginia from the UK for the first time back in June, specifically to ride 305. While I thought it was an amazing ride, I did think it was a little too intense. I greyed out both times we rode & Nick was freaked after blacking out inthe 2nd ride.

I would suggest remove the trims to keep the speed, re-profile the turn so that it is an overbanked hill / turn, much like that on MForce. I believe that would cut the sustained g's & keeping the pace up. Further along the ride I would also reproduce the biscuits changes in direction make them smoother, longer & frankly less likely to damage peoples necks. Make the coaster wince again what it is supposed to be, a gravity driven powerhouse of fun. We'll be back next year!

Reproduce the biscuits?! Clearly I need a new phone! I meant re-profile the viscious direction changes. Failing that, KD could always start selling 305 branded neckbraces!
I really hope they sort this magnificent creation out during the closed season.

It's going to cost some$ but better that than a series of expensive lawsuits.

A biscuit-related change really would be a radical solution to the blackout issue!

This really seems to have split opinion...hope to have an update soon.

Preface: I have been to Kings Dominion multiple times each year since 1999 or 2000. I've ridden every ride in the park many times. I have ridden i305 and have not experienced any negative effects (blackouts or tunnel vision or anything else).

I read this thread and felt the need to provide a psychological point of view. I rode this with a friend on two different occasions on two different days. The first time, he did not know anything of people claiming to have blackouts. Also, he is not a "hardened rider" in any sense of the term. I knew of the reports, so after the ride, I casually asked him about his experience and he enjoyed it with no problems. The second time we went, I told him about the blackouts a short time before we got on the ride. He was noticeably nervous after that and, at the end of the ride, he reported a small amount of tunnel vision.

The point is, yes, the high G forces do play a role in all of this; however, that is likely not the entire issue. There is a high probability that many of the issues have been caused by people hearing about the blackouts, becoming very nervous and having a higher heart rate before riding, and this combined with the G forces led to a temporarily decreased rate of blood flow to the brain and created their blackout or tunnel vision.

I still do and will highly recommend the Intimidator 305 and if anyone is intimidated enough by someone else to the point that they will not ride, then at least it has lived up to its name and those that do want to ride will have a shorter wait for at least one ride in the park.

TL;DR:
I've ridden many rides, many times with no problems.
I feel the blackouts (at least for some people) are caused by fear due to hearing about it from other riders.
Intimidator 305 is highly recommended.

...just my $0.02

That's a new theory on the issue which I haven't heard before but definitely has some validity. I'm not sure it accounts for all of the comments we've had about the blackout issue - but it's possible it's a contributing factor to some of them.

I just want to add to ur comment not sure how long ago this was posted, but I have been to KD 3 different days now and road this ride 2x each day and I blacked out every time! The first day was the morning be4 I ate so I thought for sure that was it. The next time I made sure I went on a full belly and damn if it didnt happen again. Now when I say black out, that's not completely the case...if it dropped for one more second I'm sure I would have completely blacked out. It was more like the feeling right be4 u go out. But I had this happen each time without knowing this happened to others. So no I don't think its from the hype. My guess is the force of the drop. I still love it! I wish I got to ride be4 the breaks, I can't imagine how that would have been!

I rode Intimidator 305 on 6/13. There was no wait to get on, which really surprised me given it's the star park attraction. Volcano and Dominator had hour waits. From a distance Intimidator 305 looked neat, but once I got close I immediately noticed a big problem. Those sudden turns from one side to another almost made me not get on. I really hate head/neck banging. I rode it anyway figuring if I was just an active rider I'd be ok. I loved the lift hill, loved the way it seems to hang on the lift hill when getting trimmed (it teases you with that dinky first right turn), and then the rest of the ride ruined my day.

I had tunnel vision that became a blackout at the end of that first right turn. I couldn't see anything until I got to the top of the first hill (I was still aware of what was going on). Most people were commenting on the sensation. Some liked it, but others like me really don't like the feeling. The rest was ferociously fast. I did manage to avoid the head/neck banging, but I found I was actively fighting against the ride instead of enjoying it. I had the worst headache when I got off. A lot of other riders were complaining of headaches, blackouts, and dizziness. My friends thought it was great and immediately made fun of me when I refused to ride it a second time, but when they got off and as the day went on they also complained of headaches and neck pains. It's cool to suck it up and not let the ride beat you, but everyone in my group pretty much agreed never to ride it again once they got over themselves. We were far from alone. Trains were mostly empty for the second half of the day. Dominator and Volcano maintained nearly hour-long waits.

I've read that Kings Dominion changed the restraints. However, I cannot picture myself ever riding Intimidator 305 again. I rode it once, hated it, and I'm done with it. I didn't bother to tell Kings Dominion about it. I'm not going to like every ride. My type of ride is more like Volcano where I can sit back, enjoy it, and experience speed or track features without having to defend myself from them. I suppose I'm in Kings Dominion's target audience of 20-somethings with lots of friends and cash to spend, but their investment in Intimidator 305 is about as effective as Busch Gardens' Drachen Fire...another ride I specifically avoided. If Intimidator 305 was more like Millenium Force I'd be happy to come back again this year. It's not, so I'm going elsewhere (Hershey Park).

Volcano > Dominator > Grizzly > Rebel Yell > Ricochet > FOF > Shockwave > Italian Job > Anaconda > Avalanche > Hurler > Intimidator 305

I went on a trip for the past two days to KD (7/23 & 24) and I must say that this was one of my favorite rides in the park. I did experience black out after the first drop and up until the first hill, but nothing was scary about it. I still was aware of everything, my vision was just hazy and I saw black spots. I rode it plenty of times, and the black out sensation certainly did not turn me off from the coaster. Maybe it would be best to make changes if it appeals to most of the riders, but I for one believe that it would be best to keep it as it is and simply make sure riders are aware of what could happen. Every time I got off the ride, all of the responses I heard were positive and even with them commenting on the black outs, a lot still wanted to ride again.

So, rode the ride today 7/24 with some interesting results. I' have ridden every other ride at KD with no ill effects. However this ride is intense, I did get tunnel vision & for a brief second couldnt see. I was aware of my surroundings but clearly felt weak. The remaining of the ride was still fast & indeed was a workout on my neck. This is where it gets interesting. As I was attempting to stand up after the ride was finished I become really light headed & actually passed out falling backwards onto my head cutting it, causing a concussion and several other bumps & bruises.

As for the theory, it was a result of hearing about other blackouts. Not the case, actually heard nothing about the ride except the tv commercials.

Health: above average, athletic, exercise 3-4 times a week.

Final opinion: intense ride, wish my situation & current concussion didn't happen. (It hurts) Give it a try but if you get tunnel vision & neck whipping, stand up slowly & with caution. Because the blood pooling in your lower extremities is starving your brain of blood.

I'm sorry to hear that - hope the concussion is clearing up.

What was the park's response to your injury? Presumably it would be a source of serious concern for them.

I think there may have been some under lying issues that helped contribute to your experience. Everyone can have a different feeling on the same ride from one day to the next. Our systems are a very sensitive thing and can be affected by many little things and if put into conjuction may cause things that we may not understand but try to blame on something else. Now I am not saying that the ride was not a factor, but I know that I can ride a coaster like MF and have done so many hundreds of times with no ill effects, but then there are those days that due to some factor, I may get a bit light headed or fuzzy, but next time, all is back to normal. The times that I have been on I305, not one issue. I do notice the trim brakes and really think that everyone needs to compare one ride to the next. I read some saying that they have no issues with ... (list of rides) ... yet when on I305, well that to some degree is a bit odd, since I can say a few of there listed rides, have way more G's than I305. There are many non-coaster, thrill rides that put huge G's on a person. If you go on a paticular ride several times and have no issues, then go one something that gives you issue, I would say try to on another day with as clear unbiased mind as you can have, try again. If you still have the say or worse effects, then go back to the ride that you didn't have issue on and know you have found your limit and let the others that can handle it, do it. We all have a limit and we all should abide by them. Just my take on life.

Thanks - definitely clear from the comments so far that people's bodies react differently to the same ride, and that their experience can vary depending on the conditions, how they are feeling, etc.

I can understand your point. I loved pre-trimmed I305 and trimmed I305 i dont much care for the coaster anymore, but i had grey outs that i never had on any of the many coasters and rides i've ridden before, on both versions of I305. The reason a high G ride like Intimidator and other high G rides may differ in effect from say a "gravatron/starship 2000" spinning flat ride, may be because the degree & positioning the body is in on the high g curve on intimidator. Plus as far as coasters, on I305's high g turn, we are sustaining that high G for a longer period of time than on other coasters that reach the same G force level. I just think Intamin needs to replace that section of track with a higher elevated overbanked turn like on M.Force, to remove the trimms from the drop, restore the speed of the coaster, and put the intimidation back in the coaster without the so frequent rider grey outs.

rode it 7/26 with my husband and we both blacked out

the people that complained about blacking out is not a big problem, that doesnt mean that the ride had to have trim brakes, the thing is slow now, its just as bad as the intimidator at carowinds,now that one SUCKS!!! anyway good job KD for making a good roller coaster into a peice of shit, and to think this ride could have gotten a high golden ticket ranking this year.

I just had to respond to the hearing about blackouts prior to riding, not true in our situation.

2 fit & healthy, seasoned rollercoaster fans.

2 rides each

2 x greyouts for me ( which I wasn't too worried about.
1 x greyout & 1 x blackout (& post ride freakout) for my partner.

It didn't ruin our day but it definately spoiled it for us.

I rode the Intimidator 305 on August 14th and experienced a "blackout" during the ride after that first drop. I had ridden extreme roller coasters before and never had this happen to me before. In fact, I also had this happen on the avalanche earlier in the day. It was a hot day and I was dehydrated and hungry, so I thought that might have been the reason it happened on the Avalanche. However, when it happened on the Intimidator hours later (after eating and drinking), I was concerned. I never knew that "blackouts" occur during rollercoasters until now and I must admit that I am really glad I stumbled upon this article as I was researching what could have caused this to happen to me. My family seemed like they didn't really believe me when I told them this had happened, so at least I know (and now they do, too) that I was not going crazy. After getting passed the "blackout", the ride was great! Even though it seems to happen to quite a few others and I have an explanation for my blackout, I am now nervous to ride any extreme rollercoasters.

My 2 friends and I have been making trips out to cedar point every summer for 3 years now. Upon hearing about intimidator 305 we decided to add kings dominion into the road trip. We got to the park and found the line for intimidator surprisingly short on a Sunday, but assumed it was due to an overcast/rainy forecast for the day. After 15 minutes waiting for the front we were all ready to go 3 minutes later we were no where near as excited. The added brakes completely ruin the well advertised 300 foot, 85 degree first drop. We came back the following day and found almost all of the other large coasters at KD to still have longer lines than intimidator. I take that as the best gauge of people's opinions of the ride. It's just not the same class as millennium force. We regret that we didn't come before they added the brakes.

I rode Intimidator after the addition of trim brakes and still blacked out. However, I do feel that i could have been better if it was faster

Im late on this forum but I rode Intimadator 305 and intrimadator 305. I LOVED the ride upon opening in the first few months and experienced the grey outs (1st time ever greyed out and i'm a frequent coaster rider/theme park traveleer since I was a kid). then i rode after trims added and disappointed. i'm not as upset about the drag on the 1st drop but more upset that the airtime on the 2nd hill and throughout the rest of the ride feels almost non-existant. However since I rode Pre-trimmed Intimidator 305 I have started having slight grey outs on other coasters (on coasters i've been on hundreds of times) which i never greyed out before, and i'm still getting that somewhat but not as much since i've been riding trimmed Intimidator 305. However cedair fair is paying 25 million for a promised a giga coaster exceeding 90 mph installed, which they have been forced to slow down to less than 80 mph, so they are not getting the semi-record breaker they paid for. SO I THINK DURING THE CLOSED SEASON, INTAMIN SHOULD REPLACE THE TURN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE 1ST HILL, WITH A HIGH RAISED OVERBANKED TURN (AS ON M.FORCE AT CEDAR POINT), SO THE COASTER WILL GAIN THE 90+ MPH AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL, DECREASE SPEED GOING UP INTO THE HIGH RAISED OVERBANKED TURN (TO ELIMINATE REGULAR GREY OUTS) THEN REGAIN MOST SPEED COMING BACK DOWN FROM THE RAISED TURN, WITH A REGULAR SMOOTH DESCENT TO ASCENT TRACK AT THE BOTTOM CONNECTING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL 2ND HILL AND REST OF COASTER, SO THAT WILL RECOOPERATE MOST OF THE AIRTIME THAT WAS LOST ON THE 2ND HILL, AND POSSIBILY GIVE A TOP SPEED TITLE BACK TO THE COASTER.

cedair fair is paying 25 million for a promised a giga coaster exceeding 90 mph installed, which they have been forced to slow down to less than 80 mph, so they are not getting the semi-record breaker they paid for. SO I THINK DURING THE CLOSED SEASON, INTAMIN SHOULD REPLACE THE TURN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE 1ST HILL, WITH A HIGH RAISED OVERBANKED TURN (AS ON M.FORCE AT CEDAR POINT), SO THE COASTER WILL GAIN THE 90+ MPH AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL, DECREASE SPEED GOING UP INTO THE HIGH RAISED OVERBANKED TURN (TO ELIMINATE REGULAR GREY OUTS) THEN REGAIN MOST SPEED COMING BACK DOWN FROM THE RAISED TURN, WITH A REGULAR SMOOTH DESCENT TO ASCENT TRACK AT THE BOTTOM CONNECTING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL 2ND HILL AND REST OF COASTER, SO THAT WILL RECOOPERATE MOST OF THE AIRTIME THAT WAS LOST ON THE 2ND HILL, AND POSSIBILY GIVE A TOP SPEED TITLE BACK TO THE COASTER.

They could just pull it down & start again!
Must be dreadfully disappointing to pay out all that money & market the ride only to find it's a NOT the great ride they were hoping for.
I've just been looking at Formula Rossa & think they might just have the same problem.

I agree with the last comment, create an overbanked hill turn to cut the sustained Gs

I never got a chance to ride the Intimidator before the trim brakes were installed, but when I went on the ride in 2010 with the trim brakes I greyed out for just a few seconds at the bottom of the first hill and came to completely by the time I was at the top of the second hill. It was pretty intense but I had a blast. I just went on the Intimidator today after the track modifications and removal of the brakes. Unfortunately I blacked out for practically the entire duration of the ride. It was not just a little grey period, I was completely out untill right before the end of the ride. When I came to I had no idea where I was or what was happening, it was one of the most terrifying, confusing, and surreal moments of my entire life. I can understand why cedar fair wants to protect it's claims to all the extreme features, but I unfortunately will never be able to go on this amazing rollercoaster again. I am a young, very healthy person, who is a big fan of rollercoasters. I have been on almost every major coaster in the country and I have never experienced anything like this. It has to be the most intense coaster in the world, I just wish they had left it the way it was at the end of 2010 because now I just have to admire it from the sidelines.

I have never fainted or blacked out in my life. I have heard of tunnel vision before though, so I knew what was happening. Right at the bottom of the first drop, the blackness began closing in. I closed my eyes for a few seconds and luckily it went away. Scary stuff though. By, the way, it was a gorgeous day--low 70's and sunny. Couldn't have been better, so I know the weather did not contribute. Needless to say, I won't be riding that again.

I rode the coaster in April during spring break. It was my second ride of the day after Dominator (an amazing coaster by the way). I didnt black out but definitely had a feeling of tunnel vision and a little light headed on the first turn after the drop. By the time the second hill came up I was fine. This is by far the most intense coaster I have ridden in my life. I think alot of the sensation people feel is from the wind in your eyes. It is so fast that your vision is blurred by the wind. This was my first time riding it and was in the very back row. The second time I rode in the front car and did not experience the grey out. Two rides in one day was enough for me. I will definitely ride it again later this summer. But I will wait until the end of the day. By the way The Grizzly was closed when I was there in April. I hope this isnt a permanent thing. I love that coaster.

I rode this ride two days ago. I also had a near-black out experience. My friend who was riding next to me had the same problem. Its quite scary when youre on a roller coaster and you get severe tunnel vision and can not think straight. I absolutely love roller coasters, but i will not be riding this again.

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